ggyro
07-20 06:07 PM
There is another thread on this same topic that presents a discussion on how the ammendment was not rejected per se, but it was more like including the ammendment that was rejected.
From the daily dairy (thomas.loc.gov):
"By 55 yeas to 40 nays..Senate rejected the motion .. with respect to Cornyn Amendment No. 2339 (to Amendment No. 2327), to provide interim relief .... Subsequently, the point of order that the amendment, was not germane, was sustained, and the amendment thus fell."
From the daily dairy (thomas.loc.gov):
"By 55 yeas to 40 nays..Senate rejected the motion .. with respect to Cornyn Amendment No. 2339 (to Amendment No. 2327), to provide interim relief .... Subsequently, the point of order that the amendment, was not germane, was sustained, and the amendment thus fell."
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09-13 04:30 PM
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bigboy007
06-10 11:46 PM
Diptam , its been repeatedly said CIR is not law yet , so dont think otherwise and be best wishes that it wont pass in current form. I hope there would be somthing as in case Law cant be retroactive. So cheerup and lets hope for the best.
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nixstor
07-06 10:31 AM
Nixstor,
AILA's publication itself said that checks were not done... Its evident on also. If you refrain from spicing up things its never going to come up in media. Who cares if 500 mm immigrants are backlogged ?
You are saying that authorities will take retaliatory measures for saying something that really bad happened. Then dont even talk about lawsuit etc... Do you think a lawsuit aginst USCIS/DOS is going to please them very much ???
Take either Boat1 or Boat2 -- Please do not sail keeping your foot in two boats. I apologize if i sound aggressive but it is what it is. Doing a work
in weekend of 48 hours (consuming 25000 visas) which takes even more
than 48 days definitely involves bypassing CRITICAL checks !!
Truth is a truth - neither you or me or anyone can alter it.
Thanks!
Let me tell you one thing for clearly. I know that this is a hot button issue in both agencies right now. If you read Zoe Lofgren's letter, both secretaries have to answer her questions and it will be a press release as well. We need to make it a public story, but NOT by digging our own hole. Boat 1 is better for me, If I know for sure that Boat 2 will drown me in the ocean. In the heat of the moment, you might not see the consequences of the security lapse rumors.
The established truth so far is
USCIS used all the numbers ahead of time and shut the door on highly skilled immigrants on day one
DOS revised its July 2007 visa bulletin on day one 1, which has not happened in a long time or never.
The wind mill stories are
Some law firms started hallucinating that the security checks were never done. They themselves do not know for sure. If you go and look towards the end of the blog post where it originated, he asks for confirmation instead of telling his resources.
Do you know that there were people who got their GC in 45-60 days last year? I know some personally. The security check and how they say its done or not done has always been esoteric to us. Last year, some one put up the blog of a Taiwanese guy who got labor,140,485 approved in a span of 5-6 months. How can this happen? AFAIK, all the people who got their GC's have PD's like 2003 and 2004. Please do not sling mud, when we do not know for sure, esp when the issues are of paramount importance like security. I will leave things for your discretion.
AILA's publication itself said that checks were not done... Its evident on also. If you refrain from spicing up things its never going to come up in media. Who cares if 500 mm immigrants are backlogged ?
You are saying that authorities will take retaliatory measures for saying something that really bad happened. Then dont even talk about lawsuit etc... Do you think a lawsuit aginst USCIS/DOS is going to please them very much ???
Take either Boat1 or Boat2 -- Please do not sail keeping your foot in two boats. I apologize if i sound aggressive but it is what it is. Doing a work
in weekend of 48 hours (consuming 25000 visas) which takes even more
than 48 days definitely involves bypassing CRITICAL checks !!
Truth is a truth - neither you or me or anyone can alter it.
Thanks!
Let me tell you one thing for clearly. I know that this is a hot button issue in both agencies right now. If you read Zoe Lofgren's letter, both secretaries have to answer her questions and it will be a press release as well. We need to make it a public story, but NOT by digging our own hole. Boat 1 is better for me, If I know for sure that Boat 2 will drown me in the ocean. In the heat of the moment, you might not see the consequences of the security lapse rumors.
The established truth so far is
USCIS used all the numbers ahead of time and shut the door on highly skilled immigrants on day one
DOS revised its July 2007 visa bulletin on day one 1, which has not happened in a long time or never.
The wind mill stories are
Some law firms started hallucinating that the security checks were never done. They themselves do not know for sure. If you go and look towards the end of the blog post where it originated, he asks for confirmation instead of telling his resources.
Do you know that there were people who got their GC in 45-60 days last year? I know some personally. The security check and how they say its done or not done has always been esoteric to us. Last year, some one put up the blog of a Taiwanese guy who got labor,140,485 approved in a span of 5-6 months. How can this happen? AFAIK, all the people who got their GC's have PD's like 2003 and 2004. Please do not sling mud, when we do not know for sure, esp when the issues are of paramount importance like security. I will leave things for your discretion.
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spicy_guy
08-13 10:22 AM
My suggestion for everyone reading this is - do not send this information to your Company or HR department. They could ask us to table this additional cost. I work for Accenture so I hope that this does not apply to my employer with less than 50% employees on visa. But I'm not going to write to them asking about this because they may turn around asking us to eat this new cost.
How about you? Has anyone contacted their employer already? What are they saying?
Most of the Indian companies (TCS, Wipro, Infy, etc) have more than 50% H1Bs, I believe.
How about you? Has anyone contacted their employer already? What are they saying?
Most of the Indian companies (TCS, Wipro, Infy, etc) have more than 50% H1Bs, I believe.
desidude
07-15 10:38 AM
Can anyone shed some light on this... I want to know how to pay thru BOA bill pay option.
Thanks.
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needhelp!
09-13 02:07 PM
Just mailed out letters to nine more radio/tv/news media addresses in Texas that AILA media site didn't allow email for. I hope USPS will deliver by tomorrow??
texanmom, I did a few Houston/Austin emails as well.
texanmom, I did a few Houston/Austin emails as well.
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12-11 04:25 PM
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desi485
12-02 05:45 PM
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My address that they had on file was also an old one, from 2 years ago. I have since moved, and done the online AR15 thing and received my EAD at the new address, so I'm not sure why/how the system showed the old address.
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Apologies for the long post, but I thought that my tale might help someone that is getting anxious over a similar situation.
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Thanks,
axp817,
I am guessing that your EAD was driven by the address which you provided while applying for it. CIS may not confirm what's on file, when there is already an address mentioned in application itself.
also, thankyou so much for sharing updates with rest of us. This may be useful to someone in similar situation in future.
Best wishes for your trip abroad. :)
My address that they had on file was also an old one, from 2 years ago. I have since moved, and done the online AR15 thing and received my EAD at the new address, so I'm not sure why/how the system showed the old address.
...
Apologies for the long post, but I thought that my tale might help someone that is getting anxious over a similar situation.
...
Thanks,
axp817,
I am guessing that your EAD was driven by the address which you provided while applying for it. CIS may not confirm what's on file, when there is already an address mentioned in application itself.
also, thankyou so much for sharing updates with rest of us. This may be useful to someone in similar situation in future.
Best wishes for your trip abroad. :)
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desi3933
09-15 04:30 PM
That memo/document you pointed out is an interpretation. We have already said that USCIS's interpretation is incorrect. We intend to correct this interpretation with this lawsuit.
Infact, it would be wrong to call this a lawsuit.
We are aiming for an injunction (or a stay order) in step 1 of the lawsuit that would prevent USCIS from working on any interfiling/PD porting requests.
If the injunction is with retroactive effect, all the EBs (not just EB3) who have ported their PDs will have their cases frozen. USCIS would not be able to work on them.
The remainder of the lawsuit can take its sweet time... the injunction should serve the primary cause.
Best of luck for your efforts for injunction order. BTW, How many, in past, such injunction orders have been issued against USCIS? That too, with retroactive effect!! That should give an idea how feasible this is.
Just because you believe in something is NOT same as proving that in a court of law with legal basis and damages caused. You have to show both things - legal basis as well as damages caused to you.
Good Luck again.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
Infact, it would be wrong to call this a lawsuit.
We are aiming for an injunction (or a stay order) in step 1 of the lawsuit that would prevent USCIS from working on any interfiling/PD porting requests.
If the injunction is with retroactive effect, all the EBs (not just EB3) who have ported their PDs will have their cases frozen. USCIS would not be able to work on them.
The remainder of the lawsuit can take its sweet time... the injunction should serve the primary cause.
Best of luck for your efforts for injunction order. BTW, How many, in past, such injunction orders have been issued against USCIS? That too, with retroactive effect!! That should give an idea how feasible this is.
Just because you believe in something is NOT same as proving that in a court of law with legal basis and damages caused. You have to show both things - legal basis as well as damages caused to you.
Good Luck again.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
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willwin
07-11 09:06 AM
dude..dont rain on our parade...everyone knows the harsh realities.. i myself said earlier that only half the battle is won...but the least we deserve is one day of hope.
Congrats EB2-I !!
I guess the intention of DOS was to enable Consular posts to approve as many EB2 cases as possible inorder to minimize VISA wastage. And also continue to enable USCIS to pick the low hanging fruits.
Otherwise, I dont think USCIS has cleared all pending cases with PD earlier than April 2004.
Yes, EB2 definitely deserves this moment and at the same time EB3 I does not deserve this 'coma' stage in their PD movement.
Congrats EB2-I !!
I guess the intention of DOS was to enable Consular posts to approve as many EB2 cases as possible inorder to minimize VISA wastage. And also continue to enable USCIS to pick the low hanging fruits.
Otherwise, I dont think USCIS has cleared all pending cases with PD earlier than April 2004.
Yes, EB2 definitely deserves this moment and at the same time EB3 I does not deserve this 'coma' stage in their PD movement.
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Still the same. Does anyone know what time this is supposed to start?
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Milind123
09-16 02:12 AM
Important people (lawmakers and others who can make things happen) know there is a problem with GC. They don't know how big. We show up in small numbers; well, they are going to interpret it like that; a small problem; as simple as that. To solve small problems takes big (long) time.
The funny thing is, if this happens; people who knew that the size of the rally mattered, and who could have very easily showed up, but will not come, assured in their mind, other people will show up, also end up being losers.
You want to know who these people are; people who will go to the office that day, people who do not have a single (even unimportant meeting), people whose boss don�t care if they are in the office or not, those who have no deadlines, those who have plenty of PV days left, those within 100 miles of DC, those who can pick up the phone on 18th and tell their boss about taking a day off (and the boss replying �OK That�s fine�), the people who will waste their entire freaking day going to sites like CCN, ABC News, Samachar.com and god know what other sites, trying to find the latest news about the rally, and once in a while folding their tiny hands and looking up at the roof of their cubicle and murmuring �Please God, make this rally a grand success�.
No amount of coaxing, urging, reasoning, and other forms of persuasion will ever let us drag you out of your cubicle.
Confused if you belong to this group. Think hard for about 10 minutes before you start insulting me. Maybe one of the above points doesn�t apply to you. In my dictionary, not attending the rally, certainly doesn�t put you in this very special group of people. All the points stated above need to be applied (including the prayer point) to you, to qualify.
Please also visit
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13427
The funny thing is, if this happens; people who knew that the size of the rally mattered, and who could have very easily showed up, but will not come, assured in their mind, other people will show up, also end up being losers.
You want to know who these people are; people who will go to the office that day, people who do not have a single (even unimportant meeting), people whose boss don�t care if they are in the office or not, those who have no deadlines, those who have plenty of PV days left, those within 100 miles of DC, those who can pick up the phone on 18th and tell their boss about taking a day off (and the boss replying �OK That�s fine�), the people who will waste their entire freaking day going to sites like CCN, ABC News, Samachar.com and god know what other sites, trying to find the latest news about the rally, and once in a while folding their tiny hands and looking up at the roof of their cubicle and murmuring �Please God, make this rally a grand success�.
No amount of coaxing, urging, reasoning, and other forms of persuasion will ever let us drag you out of your cubicle.
Confused if you belong to this group. Think hard for about 10 minutes before you start insulting me. Maybe one of the above points doesn�t apply to you. In my dictionary, not attending the rally, certainly doesn�t put you in this very special group of people. All the points stated above need to be applied (including the prayer point) to you, to qualify.
Please also visit
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13427
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09-10 10:21 AM
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psam
08-12 07:06 PM
He has already been able to pass the law. Now whether he calls them chopshop or backtracks, or praises them.......it does not do anything. This will soon be a law.
Yes, the law doesn't change. But its less hurtful.
It would be equivalent of Indian minister calling Pepsi/Coke as poison sellers. (BTW, which they are)
Yes, the law doesn't change. But its less hurtful.
It would be equivalent of Indian minister calling Pepsi/Coke as poison sellers. (BTW, which they are)
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man-woman-and-gc
06-11 11:44 AM
Guys, I have thrown out my ideas and you can take what suits you from it. As someone mentioned nothing is illegal in it. If you find something, please explain what and why.
My conservative estimate was 100K people pulling 50K$ out..that would be 5 billions...if more comes out even better
Fight for legislation?? Does anyone has any hopes on it still? You would get piecemeal concessions here and there..but the Indian EB immigration community as a whole gets nothing good out of it...2 year EAD, 5 yr EAD..just to wipe the tears...come on guys think out of the box.
You argue it is not discrimination but it is law. I say the law is discriminatory and nobody wants to change it (remember the horses discussion instead of EB immigration discussion in senate), do you need any better example than this?
Anyways, I leave it to your own judgement..and I am going ahead with my plans...I am not planning to leave the country anytime soon so I am not yet into the drastic measures I mentioned, but I sure have started the funds transfer to Indian banks, pulling out of mortgage application and moving out of US equities markets. Also, I am reducing the amount of money I pump into US economy which is currently 5K per month to ~3-3.5K per month. If it makes any difference I am making ~400K a yr from my job and other investments...
I appreciate ur enthusiasm my friend...but just think about what you are pushing for....The immigrant community cannot send 5000 letters collectively, cannot get more than 100 people to donate every month...and u are hoping 100k people will walk the path u suggested in an IV post?? Lets not get too optimistic here...the reality is we are in a country that was started by immigrants, but is now self sufficient and now does not care about Immigration.....we can only wait and watch, may be try to rally behind some initiatives like CIR etc and make victory laps on reversal of a visa bulletin or 2 year EADs....But to get this immigration process fixed is a distant dream and will not happen unless Citizens feel the need of it or America goes back to the same stage where it cannot support itself without immigrants......we can hang on the to the last straw of hope, but the world goes by facts and not perception.
My post might seem pessimistic..but I will call it realistic....those who want to go back home, please go..but leave ur details with IV so they can use it as an example in their fight....Those who stay....there is nothiong to lose in this battle....so please help IV or the immigration community in whatever way u can.
Whatever u do..find a way to live your life..with or without GC.
My conservative estimate was 100K people pulling 50K$ out..that would be 5 billions...if more comes out even better
Fight for legislation?? Does anyone has any hopes on it still? You would get piecemeal concessions here and there..but the Indian EB immigration community as a whole gets nothing good out of it...2 year EAD, 5 yr EAD..just to wipe the tears...come on guys think out of the box.
You argue it is not discrimination but it is law. I say the law is discriminatory and nobody wants to change it (remember the horses discussion instead of EB immigration discussion in senate), do you need any better example than this?
Anyways, I leave it to your own judgement..and I am going ahead with my plans...I am not planning to leave the country anytime soon so I am not yet into the drastic measures I mentioned, but I sure have started the funds transfer to Indian banks, pulling out of mortgage application and moving out of US equities markets. Also, I am reducing the amount of money I pump into US economy which is currently 5K per month to ~3-3.5K per month. If it makes any difference I am making ~400K a yr from my job and other investments...
I appreciate ur enthusiasm my friend...but just think about what you are pushing for....The immigrant community cannot send 5000 letters collectively, cannot get more than 100 people to donate every month...and u are hoping 100k people will walk the path u suggested in an IV post?? Lets not get too optimistic here...the reality is we are in a country that was started by immigrants, but is now self sufficient and now does not care about Immigration.....we can only wait and watch, may be try to rally behind some initiatives like CIR etc and make victory laps on reversal of a visa bulletin or 2 year EADs....But to get this immigration process fixed is a distant dream and will not happen unless Citizens feel the need of it or America goes back to the same stage where it cannot support itself without immigrants......we can hang on the to the last straw of hope, but the world goes by facts and not perception.
My post might seem pessimistic..but I will call it realistic....those who want to go back home, please go..but leave ur details with IV so they can use it as an example in their fight....Those who stay....there is nothiong to lose in this battle....so please help IV or the immigration community in whatever way u can.
Whatever u do..find a way to live your life..with or without GC.
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sselva69
06-17 07:56 PM
My labor (PD 8/20/2004 EB3 from VA) has been certified on 5/14/2007 and last week received the certified docs.
Wish everyone who is stuck in BECs for their approval soon.
Wish everyone who is stuck in BECs for their approval soon.
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Paid $25 through BOA Bill Pay. Confirmation number is 7YBDK-56XWW.
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01-05 10:04 PM
I never came here to study. Have you heard of IIT/REC's in India. I understand there are other colleges/universities in india which your are describing here or u might have studied there but same is true for US as all universities are not A grade. There is a way to tell the fact, not to exaggerate and that too by an indian. if an american say this i can understand that he is ignorant about the facts.
Anyways all the best for Green Green Card. I can understand the desperation
He is saying what is the truth. Do you believe that Indian universities are as good as American? If so, why do we come here?
Listen to what he says about how India is racing ahead despite all the problems with education. I was disgusted with the quotas and poor education in India.
Learn to deal with the truth whether you are Indian or American!!
Anyways all the best for Green Green Card. I can understand the desperation
He is saying what is the truth. Do you believe that Indian universities are as good as American? If so, why do we come here?
Listen to what he says about how India is racing ahead despite all the problems with education. I was disgusted with the quotas and poor education in India.
Learn to deal with the truth whether you are Indian or American!!
chandsri81
04-25 08:52 AM
Hi
I just applied for a mortgage from BOA. The loan officer did not recognize what AOS was and asked me for an H1B - which has expired.
I explained about AOS and EAD and told her I could give the I-485 receipt, and she took in my application.
But I'm worried that my loan will be denied after underwriting - my closing is on 5/26 and I probably will not hear from the bank until second week of may.
Does anyone know of Banks in MA that give loans to EAD?
Chandana
I just applied for a mortgage from BOA. The loan officer did not recognize what AOS was and asked me for an H1B - which has expired.
I explained about AOS and EAD and told her I could give the I-485 receipt, and she took in my application.
But I'm worried that my loan will be denied after underwriting - my closing is on 5/26 and I probably will not hear from the bank until second week of may.
Does anyone know of Banks in MA that give loans to EAD?
Chandana
vkotval
07-17 11:57 PM
I think priority date is important only for using a visa number for a 485 application which has been adjudicated. What is the use of a 485 application pending processing even if the visa numbers are available for that PD.
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