days_go_by
03-08 11:36 PM
Mr Eb3 nepa,
As much as i would like to believe that and agree with u, let's not forget that most of the persons on H1-b are Indians and Chinese. Why not allow Indians and Chinese for Diversity lottery?
Y have contry quotas, let it be all merit based.
You want me to believe that there is no discrimination, I laugh at that thought, u r just fooling urself, it's part of this country, it's part of their culture, not that India is any better, but u can't ignore the fact that there is very active discrimination in this country.
As much as i would like to believe that and agree with u, let's not forget that most of the persons on H1-b are Indians and Chinese. Why not allow Indians and Chinese for Diversity lottery?
Y have contry quotas, let it be all merit based.
You want me to believe that there is no discrimination, I laugh at that thought, u r just fooling urself, it's part of this country, it's part of their culture, not that India is any better, but u can't ignore the fact that there is very active discrimination in this country.
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MLS
09-25 02:06 PM
Hi Nat,
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
My company started the PERM process for me about 2.5 months ago. I contacted Fragomen about 1.5 months after approvals within the company and they said they are working on establishing min requirements for the position. I then contacted them 3 weeks after that day and they said they have established the requirement and will request the DOL for prevailing wage info (this was 2 weeks ago). After which they are going to start the recruitment process. So I'm not sure if the time line is okay or should I be chasing them more frequently? Please advise.
Regards
Nat
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
My company started the PERM process for me about 2.5 months ago. I contacted Fragomen about 1.5 months after approvals within the company and they said they are working on establishing min requirements for the position. I then contacted them 3 weeks after that day and they said they have established the requirement and will request the DOL for prevailing wage info (this was 2 weeks ago). After which they are going to start the recruitment process. So I'm not sure if the time line is okay or should I be chasing them more frequently? Please advise.
Regards
Nat
svam77
07-23 11:34 AM
You got me wrong. I am not saying that, we are safe side filing this way.
Its better filing than not doing anything ....As simple as that .......
If people get their receipt, well and good ....or else just file and forget .....
But dont sit idle just because ur attornery does not want to file ....
Dont think too much about the mail room or the employees or the contractos there or whoever ...........As I said, if u have receipt well and good, or else just file with other docs, but do file ....
Its better filing than not doing anything ....As simple as that .......
If people get their receipt, well and good ....or else just file and forget .....
But dont sit idle just because ur attornery does not want to file ....
Dont think too much about the mail room or the employees or the contractos there or whoever ...........As I said, if u have receipt well and good, or else just file with other docs, but do file ....
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harsh
03-17 03:31 PM
I would say your calculations are spot on mate. 10150 is all we will get in Eb3. But if spouses and children are not counted against the cap, then it is truly 10150 primary applicants per year.
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achopra76
08-23 08:12 AM
hi everyone,
i wondered if someone could help me find answer to the following questions.
I am a Physician and currently in Residency program which is for 3 years. my residency ends on 30th September 2008 and i have H1b status. I have been offered Fellowship in my desired specialty but it starts on 1st January 2009, therfore there is a gap of 3 months between the end of my current job and beginning of my next job.
so my questions are:
1. H1 petition which I will file for my fellowship starting 1st jan 2009 would be an extension of my current H1 or would I have to file a new H1?
2. suppose I find a job for 3 months gap period at the same institution where I have got my fellowship (keeping in mind that decription of this job would be a little different from what i will be starting from 1st jan 2009), would i have to file for 2 different H1B petitions (one for 3 month period starting 1st oct 2008 and the other for fellowship starting 1 st jan 2009).
3.also, I was thinking that if I file for H1 approval say in july 2008 for the fellowship starting 1st jan 2009 and get approval by mid september 2008. with the approved petition I go back to India and have a vacation for 3 months and come back to US in late december 2008 on H1B again for Fellowship beginning 1st jan 2009. In this case, what would be my status for the gap period of 3 months that I spent in India?
also, would I be issued a new SSN when i come back again. also, i have heard rumors that US embassy in Delhi can hassle you to get H1. How true is that?
Is there any other option someone can suggest?
Thanks for your patient in reading my message
i wondered if someone could help me find answer to the following questions.
I am a Physician and currently in Residency program which is for 3 years. my residency ends on 30th September 2008 and i have H1b status. I have been offered Fellowship in my desired specialty but it starts on 1st January 2009, therfore there is a gap of 3 months between the end of my current job and beginning of my next job.
so my questions are:
1. H1 petition which I will file for my fellowship starting 1st jan 2009 would be an extension of my current H1 or would I have to file a new H1?
2. suppose I find a job for 3 months gap period at the same institution where I have got my fellowship (keeping in mind that decription of this job would be a little different from what i will be starting from 1st jan 2009), would i have to file for 2 different H1B petitions (one for 3 month period starting 1st oct 2008 and the other for fellowship starting 1 st jan 2009).
3.also, I was thinking that if I file for H1 approval say in july 2008 for the fellowship starting 1st jan 2009 and get approval by mid september 2008. with the approved petition I go back to India and have a vacation for 3 months and come back to US in late december 2008 on H1B again for Fellowship beginning 1st jan 2009. In this case, what would be my status for the gap period of 3 months that I spent in India?
also, would I be issued a new SSN when i come back again. also, i have heard rumors that US embassy in Delhi can hassle you to get H1. How true is that?
Is there any other option someone can suggest?
Thanks for your patient in reading my message
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jgh_res
07-27 12:28 PM
You may be all right as far as your discussion is concerned but for the following one:
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
1000 people donating 20 bucks each, dude you are day dreaming. If you are seriously into this law suit stuff, be prepared to speand MONEY, TIME, ENERGY of your own and not 20$ from your side.
Did you not hear about how Aman spent 60+K of his own. So.....
I contributed around 300$ till now to IV.
I am one of the several may be thousand who have been affected. I am not using this for my slefish purposes. I am trying to get the suppoprt of IV and its members for this cause. I am not disagreeing with IV in any way.
This is an agenda for a common cause for all affected people and I want everyone to support.
Someone has to sow the seed and start the process. Doesn't mean since I started the thread it is my selfish agenda. It is part of IV's goal to get justice for all people who are affected by any immigration issue. So IV is the right forum to raise this issue.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
If you have the will you have the way.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
1000 people donating 20 bucks each, dude you are day dreaming. If you are seriously into this law suit stuff, be prepared to speand MONEY, TIME, ENERGY of your own and not 20$ from your side.
Did you not hear about how Aman spent 60+K of his own. So.....
I contributed around 300$ till now to IV.
I am one of the several may be thousand who have been affected. I am not using this for my slefish purposes. I am trying to get the suppoprt of IV and its members for this cause. I am not disagreeing with IV in any way.
This is an agenda for a common cause for all affected people and I want everyone to support.
Someone has to sow the seed and start the process. Doesn't mean since I started the thread it is my selfish agenda. It is part of IV's goal to get justice for all people who are affected by any immigration issue. So IV is the right forum to raise this issue.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
If you have the will you have the way.
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santb1975
02-26 12:19 PM
I will be collecting some letters on Pioneer this weekend. Hopefully I can raise so.cal count from 34.
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needhelp!
04-28 11:57 AM
Our total right now is $4686
Statewise distribution:
ca 1151
tx 700
nj 250
mi 250
fl 235
wa 200
ny 200
al 200
va 150
az 150
sd 100
sc 100
pa 100
oh 100
mn 100
ma 100
ky 100
in 100
il 100
ga 100
co 100
nc 50
delaware 50
IV members who contributed so far:
gconmymind-51, snathan-50, smanikandan-100, ahasan-100, MunnaBhai-100, vineet-100, rameshk75-50, mariusp-35, gcfordesi-50, belmontboy-100, Houstonguy-200, vikasw-50, kshitijnt-100, pune_guy-100, walking_dude-100, prasha98-100, ivvm-50, manojp4-100, Pineapple-100, sammyb-50, ca_gc-100, santb1975-100, nav_saini-100, gcpadmavyuh-100, pcs-100, akbose-100, eastwest-50, ubetman-100, pmurgai-100, deba-100, 5-Jun-100, wa_Saiprasad-100, chaukas-100, arunmohan-50, jimytomy-100, aspiration-50, prshah102-100, czar_the_king-100, maverick6993-100, eb3_nepa-100, kumar_77-50, Alien-100, nagio-100, vin13-100, manja-100, loti_GC-50, sonaliak-50, mdmd10-100, surabhi-100, m306m-100, malaGCPahije-100, patbose-50, clif-100, goel_ar-50
Statewise distribution:
ca 1151
tx 700
nj 250
mi 250
fl 235
wa 200
ny 200
al 200
va 150
az 150
sd 100
sc 100
pa 100
oh 100
mn 100
ma 100
ky 100
in 100
il 100
ga 100
co 100
nc 50
delaware 50
IV members who contributed so far:
gconmymind-51, snathan-50, smanikandan-100, ahasan-100, MunnaBhai-100, vineet-100, rameshk75-50, mariusp-35, gcfordesi-50, belmontboy-100, Houstonguy-200, vikasw-50, kshitijnt-100, pune_guy-100, walking_dude-100, prasha98-100, ivvm-50, manojp4-100, Pineapple-100, sammyb-50, ca_gc-100, santb1975-100, nav_saini-100, gcpadmavyuh-100, pcs-100, akbose-100, eastwest-50, ubetman-100, pmurgai-100, deba-100, 5-Jun-100, wa_Saiprasad-100, chaukas-100, arunmohan-50, jimytomy-100, aspiration-50, prshah102-100, czar_the_king-100, maverick6993-100, eb3_nepa-100, kumar_77-50, Alien-100, nagio-100, vin13-100, manja-100, loti_GC-50, sonaliak-50, mdmd10-100, surabhi-100, m306m-100, malaGCPahije-100, patbose-50, clif-100, goel_ar-50
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05-17 03:33 PM
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thepaew
05-29 04:16 PM
I'll take that Air France ordeal anyday w/o compensation over an Air India first class ticket.
European carriers are not that friendly to indian flyers. if you have a choice, try to avoid them.
European carriers are not that friendly to indian flyers. if you have a choice, try to avoid them.
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AK_GC
06-29 02:07 PM
Call the 1-800 number in the approval notice and select the options 1->7->4->3 and they will be able to help check the status of the application. You need the receipt no when you call them
Did just that. I believe it is approved. Will wait for it in the mail now.
Did just that. I believe it is approved. Will wait for it in the mail now.
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snathan
01-13 02:59 PM
I believe we are wasting our energy here. Quarterly spill over is already a law and we need to make DOS/USCIS to implement it. If we have some many people are ready to sue USCIS on country quota issue, why dont we use that energy on the low hanging fruit...
You may argue that only EB2 will benefit...but once EB2 become current, its going to spill over to EB3.
You may argue that only EB2 will benefit...but once EB2 become current, its going to spill over to EB3.
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LostInGCProcess
06-17 03:53 PM
I have had all good experiences with fragoment till now, and I have been dealing with them for a couple of years now. They were very professional i should say. Again I work for one of the top 3 financial firms , and my employer has fragomen as preferred law firm.
seems to me, you are one of the paralegals or employee of that firm :D or marketing that company :cool:
seems to me, you are one of the paralegals or employee of that firm :D or marketing that company :cool:
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Prasad_FL
05-19 07:22 PM
I have donated $100. Transaction ID: 37W122922L450784L. I have reserved my tickets to DC(June 5th - 9th).
Go IV.
Go IV.
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paskal
07-17 08:38 PM
I am EB-3 ROW PD 2007 Aug. Reading all the Eb-3 I people's angry, I started to wonder what's gonna happen to the EB-3 ROW. Seems like if lots of Eb3-I change to EB2-I , They will probably eat up all the Spillover from Eb1, EB2 ROW from now on. That makes EB-3 ROW and EB-3 I become the same boat.
Is it what gonna happened? and think about how many people can afford to spend an extra 10k to change the status from EB-3 to EB-2? That's totally not fair. We need to take action all EB-3 ers!!!!!!
danny,
i do not think its' quite that bad for EB3 ROW. the spillover system now in use is what USCIS was already doing till 2005. only in 2006 did the vertical spillover have any impact, since 2007 numbers were skewed by July. so things really have not changed that much for EB3 ROW. they will still get the large bulk of EB3 GC numbers, while retrogressed nations are limited to 7%.
also i do not think every future filing can be EB2. as it is USCIS a DOL appear to have tightened their scrutiny and narrowed their interpretation for both EB1 and EB2 approvals.
you are right of course that we must do something that helps everyone. recapture asap and then getting GC numbers increased (whether an absolute increase or exemptions) is the only solution.
Is it what gonna happened? and think about how many people can afford to spend an extra 10k to change the status from EB-3 to EB-2? That's totally not fair. We need to take action all EB-3 ers!!!!!!
danny,
i do not think its' quite that bad for EB3 ROW. the spillover system now in use is what USCIS was already doing till 2005. only in 2006 did the vertical spillover have any impact, since 2007 numbers were skewed by July. so things really have not changed that much for EB3 ROW. they will still get the large bulk of EB3 GC numbers, while retrogressed nations are limited to 7%.
also i do not think every future filing can be EB2. as it is USCIS a DOL appear to have tightened their scrutiny and narrowed their interpretation for both EB1 and EB2 approvals.
you are right of course that we must do something that helps everyone. recapture asap and then getting GC numbers increased (whether an absolute increase or exemptions) is the only solution.
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grupak
03-15 08:52 AM
Should we send letters to the president about EB india category. The dates are moving very slowly..... etc..
we have to do something or it will take years to get GC
There was an IV campaign for writing letters to the President. The deadline was March 11th but I presume you can still participate by writing the letters for admin fix. Templates are on the main page.
we have to do something or it will take years to get GC
There was an IV campaign for writing letters to the President. The deadline was March 11th but I presume you can still participate by writing the letters for admin fix. Templates are on the main page.
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sanjay02
05-24 03:06 PM
Hi
I have a question with regard to AP renewal. My I-485 was sent to local office for interview in Feb 2009 and my case was preadjucated since the dates werent current , my card wasnt issued. I am in California. My PD is Nov 2005.
The question I have is, when I filing for my AP renewal , do I still send it to Nebraska or some other office? Since I dont know the location where my I-485 file is located as of now.
Any one who has renewed to AP/EAD after being called for interview at local office if they can give me any direction on this would be great. I asked my lawyer the same question he doesnt seem to have an answer as yet.
Thnks in advance.
I have a question with regard to AP renewal. My I-485 was sent to local office for interview in Feb 2009 and my case was preadjucated since the dates werent current , my card wasnt issued. I am in California. My PD is Nov 2005.
The question I have is, when I filing for my AP renewal , do I still send it to Nebraska or some other office? Since I dont know the location where my I-485 file is located as of now.
Any one who has renewed to AP/EAD after being called for interview at local office if they can give me any direction on this would be great. I asked my lawyer the same question he doesnt seem to have an answer as yet.
Thnks in advance.
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kate123
02-25 02:48 PM
I agree...
we should not care whether it can be done as part of admin fix or legislative fix. Since it has come Straight from the horse's mouth (DHS secretary), I think we should bring enough attention to her to push for this fix.
Hi kate123, either it is a legislative fix or not, it's not up to us to decide. I saw the danger of our time and effort being sidetracked by trying to argue whether it's a legislative or administrative fix. The new secretary has made it clear that she is willing to push for BOTH Administrative AND Legislative fix if it's deemed necessary. Our goal should be bringing enough attention to her on the pre-application issue and convince her it's a meaningful change that will help both the DHS and the applicants, so she will push for changes. Please let me know if you agree.
we should not care whether it can be done as part of admin fix or legislative fix. Since it has come Straight from the horse's mouth (DHS secretary), I think we should bring enough attention to her to push for this fix.
Hi kate123, either it is a legislative fix or not, it's not up to us to decide. I saw the danger of our time and effort being sidetracked by trying to argue whether it's a legislative or administrative fix. The new secretary has made it clear that she is willing to push for BOTH Administrative AND Legislative fix if it's deemed necessary. Our goal should be bringing enough attention to her on the pre-application issue and convince her it's a meaningful change that will help both the DHS and the applicants, so she will push for changes. Please let me know if you agree.
satyasaich
07-21 03:16 PM
What ever you have pointed out is very valid and no doubt, shows the injustice. However, considering the present situation following are my thoughts.
1. Let's call for an action item for all those IV members whose LCs are still in BECs
2. Try to present the case to USCIS in a truly meaningful way about the those individuals still waiting for LC approvals
3. Try to get an exception so that they can file 140+485 even after Aug17th.
(atleast this is not an impossible thing to USCIS to accept just few thousand when compared to hundreds of thousands)
I strongly believe in IV from day 1 and quickly take an action item first of all to come up with list of the individuals (as many as possible).
Then, let's approach USCIS (i don't know how to do it at this time, but open this for some good ideas) to get an exception for those cases still to come out of BECs
I know so many of us have already filed for 485 or busy to file before Aug17th, but PLEASE LET'S DO SOMETHING.
Personally even though i applied for 485, i'm all for it and justice MUST BE DONE
Subject: Injustice :mad: for people with priority dates in '02, '03, '04 etc. who are still waiting for their labor certs to be processed using the traditional process - we want to file a case against DOL's lethargy - Let us join together and file a case against DOL and bring justice to this unjustified system.
The manner in which the backlog reduction center have been processing the
labor certs seems to be very unfair for people like me and others who have been affected. I know of cases with priority dates as late as 2005 that have gone through the traditional process and have been approved already. And there are cases like mine and others with much earlier priority dates that haven't been done. This is very unfair and unjustified. It is like we have been standing in the queue for several hours and a person who came much later than me just sneaked into the queue and got his service done while I am still waiting for my turn. Also the fact that now the UCIS has made the filing of I-485 current adds more insult to the injury that I and others in my position have endured.
The fact that the I-485 was made current and then withdrawn was made a big deal and people wanted to file cases, whereas the plight of people like me who are still waiting for the labor cert to be cleared has been totally
ignored, inspite of the fact that people who applied for labor much later
have been approved through the traditional process.
We want to file a case ASAP with the DOL or other relevant
authority regarding this issue and the unfair way of the process that we
have been subjected to. So can all those folks who have been affected by this join and voice your support? We shoud put up this fight because this is in no way justified. Why would it be?
The next steps should be:
- Get all of the support we need from all affected folks ASAP
- Get in touch with a lawyer who can help us to prepare the case
- File the case in a court against DOL
- Make sure we get justice
Please join and show your support. Please help!!!
1. Let's call for an action item for all those IV members whose LCs are still in BECs
2. Try to present the case to USCIS in a truly meaningful way about the those individuals still waiting for LC approvals
3. Try to get an exception so that they can file 140+485 even after Aug17th.
(atleast this is not an impossible thing to USCIS to accept just few thousand when compared to hundreds of thousands)
I strongly believe in IV from day 1 and quickly take an action item first of all to come up with list of the individuals (as many as possible).
Then, let's approach USCIS (i don't know how to do it at this time, but open this for some good ideas) to get an exception for those cases still to come out of BECs
I know so many of us have already filed for 485 or busy to file before Aug17th, but PLEASE LET'S DO SOMETHING.
Personally even though i applied for 485, i'm all for it and justice MUST BE DONE
Subject: Injustice :mad: for people with priority dates in '02, '03, '04 etc. who are still waiting for their labor certs to be processed using the traditional process - we want to file a case against DOL's lethargy - Let us join together and file a case against DOL and bring justice to this unjustified system.
The manner in which the backlog reduction center have been processing the
labor certs seems to be very unfair for people like me and others who have been affected. I know of cases with priority dates as late as 2005 that have gone through the traditional process and have been approved already. And there are cases like mine and others with much earlier priority dates that haven't been done. This is very unfair and unjustified. It is like we have been standing in the queue for several hours and a person who came much later than me just sneaked into the queue and got his service done while I am still waiting for my turn. Also the fact that now the UCIS has made the filing of I-485 current adds more insult to the injury that I and others in my position have endured.
The fact that the I-485 was made current and then withdrawn was made a big deal and people wanted to file cases, whereas the plight of people like me who are still waiting for the labor cert to be cleared has been totally
ignored, inspite of the fact that people who applied for labor much later
have been approved through the traditional process.
We want to file a case ASAP with the DOL or other relevant
authority regarding this issue and the unfair way of the process that we
have been subjected to. So can all those folks who have been affected by this join and voice your support? We shoud put up this fight because this is in no way justified. Why would it be?
The next steps should be:
- Get all of the support we need from all affected folks ASAP
- Get in touch with a lawyer who can help us to prepare the case
- File the case in a court against DOL
- Make sure we get justice
Please join and show your support. Please help!!!
xbohdpukc
03-18 01:32 PM
I think I-485 filing clause is needed. Please note that the USCIS is not staffed enough. So there is a high possibility that the priority date retrogression will continue even if all the current provisions included in the Frist bill is passed. They will retain the retrogression in order to control the number of applications. In such a scenario, it is important for us to try and introduce the I-485 clause, so that people could get their EAD while they wait for USCIS to clear the mess. My 2 cents.
I don't believe you are right. Cut-off dates are not established based on the USCIS workload and its staffing, but rather on the predicted balance between demand for and supply of GCs. Therefore if worst comes to worst we will see a backlog at the USCIS level again, ie their processing time will go way beyond today's 6 months. BUt if the DOS believes that they have enough GC available to meet the demand in each and every particular quarter they will adjust cut-off dates accordingly.
I don't believe you are right. Cut-off dates are not established based on the USCIS workload and its staffing, but rather on the predicted balance between demand for and supply of GCs. Therefore if worst comes to worst we will see a backlog at the USCIS level again, ie their processing time will go way beyond today's 6 months. BUt if the DOS believes that they have enough GC available to meet the demand in each and every particular quarter they will adjust cut-off dates accordingly.
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