walking_dude
10-15 12:12 PM
GC-waiting life is fully of misery and suffering [bestowed by lawyers. employers, DOL, DOS, USCIS etc.] Grassroots efforts [State chapters] is the means of GC happiness. Way to GC happiness is to follow the Eight-Fold fath of
1) Right Participation - Join the State Chapters
2) Meet the Right People - Meet the Lawmakers who can fix the system
3) Set Right the media crecord - Talk to media and dissociate our cause from that of unrelated issues H1B visa increase and "undoucumented"
4) Find more Right People to join the cause - publicity & membership drive
5) Learn more about the Right Cause - Join telecons with the core (whenever scheduled)
6) Right approach - IV talking points, best practices
7) Right Info sharing - Between chapter leaders and members about best practices, and experiences
8) Rightway to get GC Nirvana through the Grassroots "Karma"
Quod Erat Demonstrandum
1) Right Participation - Join the State Chapters
2) Meet the Right People - Meet the Lawmakers who can fix the system
3) Set Right the media crecord - Talk to media and dissociate our cause from that of unrelated issues H1B visa increase and "undoucumented"
4) Find more Right People to join the cause - publicity & membership drive
5) Learn more about the Right Cause - Join telecons with the core (whenever scheduled)
6) Right approach - IV talking points, best practices
7) Right Info sharing - Between chapter leaders and members about best practices, and experiences
8) Rightway to get GC Nirvana through the Grassroots "Karma"
Quod Erat Demonstrandum
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redds777
06-11 10:45 PM
Hi Caliber
IV is fighting for all EB Categories including H1Bs. When we went to the congressmen and senators this week we never brought up EB2 or EB3 we said all EB is facing backlogs .
As i had said in my previous posts, we all need to rise up to the occation and raise our voice through IV . That is the only solution to all our problems. we need to be united and come forward to attend these events and raise funds .
There are a lot of groups jockying for the Green cards on capitol hill for their interest groups . they are even lobbing for the recaptured visas and quotas etc.. Unless we EB people rise up and make our voices heard, nothing is gong to happen. please come forword and spread the word to your friends to support IV both by participation and financially . even donating 10 dollars a month goes a long way for our cause.
we are 45k Members in IV . But donors are only 10% i heard. that is disappointing paercentage for the high skilled category. Think about it this way . we did not eat one day in a month in a restaurant and instead contributed for a worthy cause which will benifit all of us.
IV has a lot of goodwill among most of the lawmakers. That is because of the sincere efforts putin by the core for advocating our cause. Guys believe me there are a lot of honest people in IV core and IV members who will make efficient use of the financial resources to maximise the bang for the buck. ( I have seen first hand how carefully the money is used during the advocasy days this week in DC ) .
I would also like to point out that Not every time IV will be successfull in blocking an unfavourable amendment or bringing up support for a perticular issue . some times we have to givein to the more stronger groups . thats just how the business is done in DC . it is all based on the deal making in the offices on the hill. we should not be discouraged by the set backs when they happen. We need to be united and fight for our cause.
Hope i have made it clear to all how important is to participate and contribute to IV for our cause.
Thanks
Kartik, as long as we, the EB3 do not come forward and collect huge amount for lobbying, we will continue to lurk here for many more years.
Unfortunately the sad part is, whatever lobbying is done actually helped only EB2 I, may be due to a wrong notion by USCIS that all Hi-tech immigrants are EB2. This could be a fact as there are thousands of 245 cases that fell into EB3.
Another bad thing was that USCIS release this VB yesterday which means one extra day to CRY.
I do not blame any one, but ourselves. We do not want to spend money and hence dying in this process. No solution, but cry at every VB day.
IV is fighting for all EB Categories including H1Bs. When we went to the congressmen and senators this week we never brought up EB2 or EB3 we said all EB is facing backlogs .
As i had said in my previous posts, we all need to rise up to the occation and raise our voice through IV . That is the only solution to all our problems. we need to be united and come forward to attend these events and raise funds .
There are a lot of groups jockying for the Green cards on capitol hill for their interest groups . they are even lobbing for the recaptured visas and quotas etc.. Unless we EB people rise up and make our voices heard, nothing is gong to happen. please come forword and spread the word to your friends to support IV both by participation and financially . even donating 10 dollars a month goes a long way for our cause.
we are 45k Members in IV . But donors are only 10% i heard. that is disappointing paercentage for the high skilled category. Think about it this way . we did not eat one day in a month in a restaurant and instead contributed for a worthy cause which will benifit all of us.
IV has a lot of goodwill among most of the lawmakers. That is because of the sincere efforts putin by the core for advocating our cause. Guys believe me there are a lot of honest people in IV core and IV members who will make efficient use of the financial resources to maximise the bang for the buck. ( I have seen first hand how carefully the money is used during the advocasy days this week in DC ) .
I would also like to point out that Not every time IV will be successfull in blocking an unfavourable amendment or bringing up support for a perticular issue . some times we have to givein to the more stronger groups . thats just how the business is done in DC . it is all based on the deal making in the offices on the hill. we should not be discouraged by the set backs when they happen. We need to be united and fight for our cause.
Hope i have made it clear to all how important is to participate and contribute to IV for our cause.
Thanks
Kartik, as long as we, the EB3 do not come forward and collect huge amount for lobbying, we will continue to lurk here for many more years.
Unfortunately the sad part is, whatever lobbying is done actually helped only EB2 I, may be due to a wrong notion by USCIS that all Hi-tech immigrants are EB2. This could be a fact as there are thousands of 245 cases that fell into EB3.
Another bad thing was that USCIS release this VB yesterday which means one extra day to CRY.
I do not blame any one, but ourselves. We do not want to spend money and hence dying in this process. No solution, but cry at every VB day.
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h1techSlave
09-21 10:32 PM
How about a candle night vigil outside all state capitals, one Friday/Saturday/Sunday evening? This is a symbolic gesture for the slow death of our green card dreams.
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jambapamba
07-18 07:44 AM
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
I'm a June filer, and this July thing will hit me too, but I still congratulate those July filers. So what? I understand that we will start getting our EADs in a year (so we would be applying for next EAD once we got current one). I understand that USCIS officers will be irritated and pissed, they will be under tons of application and everybody will be calling and bugging them. So? I realize that it maybe will take 3-4 years for us to get GC. So? I realize that DOS might retrogress now dates for many years on Oct, and will not do the same stupid mistake as making dates current and unleashing the voluntary slaves. So?
Today was little tiny success and it was day of tiny celebration. There is day for complaining and there is day for celebration.
oh god...people stuck at BEC are compared to people "stuck" in afghanistan/africa. Dont understand what they are stuck for... :o
I'm a June filer, and this July thing will hit me too, but I still congratulate those July filers. So what? I understand that we will start getting our EADs in a year (so we would be applying for next EAD once we got current one). I understand that USCIS officers will be irritated and pissed, they will be under tons of application and everybody will be calling and bugging them. So? I realize that it maybe will take 3-4 years for us to get GC. So? I realize that DOS might retrogress now dates for many years on Oct, and will not do the same stupid mistake as making dates current and unleashing the voluntary slaves. So?
Today was little tiny success and it was day of tiny celebration. There is day for complaining and there is day for celebration.
oh god...people stuck at BEC are compared to people "stuck" in afghanistan/africa. Dont understand what they are stuck for... :o
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GTGC
09-19 09:03 PM
My wife and I got involved with IV activities/volunteering about 2 months before the rally....and we are very glad we did!
Its been a very rewarding and learning experience....after meeting with the lawmakers- it has fortified our belief in IV and renewed our enthusiasm about the process. After reading Logiclife's post I am convinced that active participation is the key to achieving success!
We plan on continuing our efforts - turning sceptics into believers - it is especially needed in the DC/VA/MD!
Cheers!!
Its been a very rewarding and learning experience....after meeting with the lawmakers- it has fortified our belief in IV and renewed our enthusiasm about the process. After reading Logiclife's post I am convinced that active participation is the key to achieving success!
We plan on continuing our efforts - turning sceptics into believers - it is especially needed in the DC/VA/MD!
Cheers!!
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dsairam
08-17 01:30 PM
I saw lot of posts above saying good things about them however my experience with them has been bad. I am assumng this is Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy, LLP we are talking about.
There have been a couple things in the past but the most frustrating one was that even though I sent them all my papers etc. by Jun 20th (so that they can file it on July 2nd) they did not file my case until Aug 08. They are my corporate lawyers so I don't have any choice. Also, they asked us not to contact regarding status during this period as they were really busy. While not responding to status queries was understandable, they still took more than a month to file cases. I confirmed with a lot of my colleagues who were in the same boat and were equally frustrated with noncommunication and taking so long to file the cases. They also were not maintaining any apparent first come first serve queue because there were several folks who got their filings done much sooner than others who had sent complete paperworks way before them.
Based on my experience, I wouldn't recommend them.
There have been a couple things in the past but the most frustrating one was that even though I sent them all my papers etc. by Jun 20th (so that they can file it on July 2nd) they did not file my case until Aug 08. They are my corporate lawyers so I don't have any choice. Also, they asked us not to contact regarding status during this period as they were really busy. While not responding to status queries was understandable, they still took more than a month to file cases. I confirmed with a lot of my colleagues who were in the same boat and were equally frustrated with noncommunication and taking so long to file the cases. They also were not maintaining any apparent first come first serve queue because there were several folks who got their filings done much sooner than others who had sent complete paperworks way before them.
Based on my experience, I wouldn't recommend them.
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prince_charming
12-20 01:41 PM
Were you on H-1 or EAD? Just curious? If on EAD did you keep on working or had to sit home.
Will really appreciate your reply.
GO IV GO.
I am maintaining H1B status and never used EAD
Will really appreciate your reply.
GO IV GO.
I am maintaining H1B status and never used EAD
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srikondoji
12-24 02:01 PM
You have to understand the simple fact that no,law or system is 100% perfect on day 1. Over time we have to learn the system and take the feedback and modify the system according to changing times. You cannot say that discrimination is built into the law. This is totally wrong.
Again H1-B visa is a privillege just like Driver license. It is not a right.
We can only request/protest democratically following proper protocols and get our things done. Otherwise there won't be any difference between us and those terrorists who protest by suicide bombers.
I hope i didn't offend anyone here.
of course, a different visa type, discrimination built into the law.
Again H1-B visa is a privillege just like Driver license. It is not a right.
We can only request/protest democratically following proper protocols and get our things done. Otherwise there won't be any difference between us and those terrorists who protest by suicide bombers.
I hope i didn't offend anyone here.
of course, a different visa type, discrimination built into the law.
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CaliGC
06-14 03:17 PM
Vinn,
Here are just a few that I can think of rightaway.
1. Once shifted to EAD you loose opportunity to renew or apply for a new H1B if you have not completed six years though.
2. You have to apply for EAD renewal every year and much in advance. H1Bs are issues for 3 year periods.
3. Suppose there is a delay in getting the renewal, you are NOT allowed to work until the renewal comes through. Renewal duration depends on the work load.
4. Fee of EAD is being hiked to $340 per year.
5. Couple of my EAD starting date was the approval date even though the current EAD had not exipred effectively loosing couple of months validity each time.
6. Due to some issues if I-485 gets revoked the EAD/AP are invalidated the very next moment and you accumulate illegal stay and would not have time to get the process going.
On the other hand having a H1B you can apply for EAD any time or not even apply if you have sufficient validity on it. Suppose the I-485 gets rejected you can reapply for a new one or from an another employer and still work/live legally in the US.
EAD allows you to work any type/number of jobs that is the big PLUS though!
TIA
Here are just a few that I can think of rightaway.
1. Once shifted to EAD you loose opportunity to renew or apply for a new H1B if you have not completed six years though.
2. You have to apply for EAD renewal every year and much in advance. H1Bs are issues for 3 year periods.
3. Suppose there is a delay in getting the renewal, you are NOT allowed to work until the renewal comes through. Renewal duration depends on the work load.
4. Fee of EAD is being hiked to $340 per year.
5. Couple of my EAD starting date was the approval date even though the current EAD had not exipred effectively loosing couple of months validity each time.
6. Due to some issues if I-485 gets revoked the EAD/AP are invalidated the very next moment and you accumulate illegal stay and would not have time to get the process going.
On the other hand having a H1B you can apply for EAD any time or not even apply if you have sufficient validity on it. Suppose the I-485 gets rejected you can reapply for a new one or from an another employer and still work/live legally in the US.
EAD allows you to work any type/number of jobs that is the big PLUS though!
TIA
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walking_dude
10-07 10:40 AM
Kumar,
Are you attending 10/20 meeting at Troy Community Center (Troy) at 10:00 am [ Details are published else where in this thread]?
Also, chintu25 (sam) was looking for someone from Grand Rapids to talk to local (Grand Rapids) media reporter interested in doing a story on EB GC wait period. You should contact him and use this opportunity to highlight our issue and the way we have come together as 'Immigration Voice' to change the situation through lobbying and grassroots-level action
Hello Members ,
Is there any one living in and around Grand Rapids ?? Please mail me
thanks
kumar
Are you attending 10/20 meeting at Troy Community Center (Troy) at 10:00 am [ Details are published else where in this thread]?
Also, chintu25 (sam) was looking for someone from Grand Rapids to talk to local (Grand Rapids) media reporter interested in doing a story on EB GC wait period. You should contact him and use this opportunity to highlight our issue and the way we have come together as 'Immigration Voice' to change the situation through lobbying and grassroots-level action
Hello Members ,
Is there any one living in and around Grand Rapids ?? Please mail me
thanks
kumar
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GCAmigo
02-13 11:35 AM
Hey Bush,
Why dont you sign the immigration bill for US. :)
other Bush..
Why dont you sign the immigration bill for US. :)
other Bush..
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qvadis
03-21 04:48 AM
Allow me to emphasize a different section of the text:
Snips from Nov 05 Bulletin (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html)
The AC21 removed the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such numbers available.
>> As per my understanding, When there are no per country limits, It can be assigned to any one with oldest PD. Not that it is working like that with USCIS. As I said, before in my previous post, we can imagine these visa numbers tagged with the category name beside them. <<
The way I read this is that this particular AC21 rule only applies if there are no cut-off dates in any category (for that calendar quarter). This is clearly not the case in this bulletin, where the cut-off date for EB3 is set to July '05. Hence, the new interpretation seems different.
During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply ...] This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
>> I have spoken with an attorney and he expressed above similar opinion where we might not have noticed how numbers were overflowing and NOT overflowing to demand or lack of demand. Either way, This is not a panacea for the problem at hand as there is no clarity what so ever in either procedures. <<
Maybe I'm misreading above statement, but it sounds to me that because of higher demand (of ROW), AC21 wouldn't apply anymore, and instead of 47k in '05, India had only received 10k in '06.
Note that I think the immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed. By changing their interpretation, they are only taking away visas from one group and give it to another group. I can certainly see why people who are affected by this would be biased. No harm intended.
Snips from Nov 05 Bulletin (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html)
The AC21 removed the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such numbers available.
>> As per my understanding, When there are no per country limits, It can be assigned to any one with oldest PD. Not that it is working like that with USCIS. As I said, before in my previous post, we can imagine these visa numbers tagged with the category name beside them. <<
The way I read this is that this particular AC21 rule only applies if there are no cut-off dates in any category (for that calendar quarter). This is clearly not the case in this bulletin, where the cut-off date for EB3 is set to July '05. Hence, the new interpretation seems different.
During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply ...] This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
>> I have spoken with an attorney and he expressed above similar opinion where we might not have noticed how numbers were overflowing and NOT overflowing to demand or lack of demand. Either way, This is not a panacea for the problem at hand as there is no clarity what so ever in either procedures. <<
Maybe I'm misreading above statement, but it sounds to me that because of higher demand (of ROW), AC21 wouldn't apply anymore, and instead of 47k in '05, India had only received 10k in '06.
Note that I think the immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed. By changing their interpretation, they are only taking away visas from one group and give it to another group. I can certainly see why people who are affected by this would be biased. No harm intended.
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maverick6993
07-03 10:15 AM
Does the SKIL bill only needs to pass in the House? Since it is already in the CIR , does it mean it has already passed in the senate? How is it going to work?
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H4_losing_hope
02-28 12:12 PM
I dropped the letters in my garage yesterday and thought I had picked them all up. But there were few that were hiding under the car. And this morning they came under the wheels :(
Trying to see if they can be revived and cleaned up.
That is not fair. I hope that you can use them, for all the effort you have put in.
Trying to see if they can be revived and cleaned up.
That is not fair. I hope that you can use them, for all the effort you have put in.
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H4_losing_hope
02-14 07:43 PM
:) The golden letter from my previous attorney arrived today! GO IV!!
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Jaime
09-12 02:13 PM
You still have time to arrange your plans and attend! Here�s why you should come:
You have probably made up your mind not to attend the rally. Perhaps you think that already many people will attend and that one more or one less person (You) will not make a difference. But it will! In fact, let�s not even think about whether one more or one less person will make a difference. Rather, I invite you to think this way: Do it because it�s right! Do it for yourself! Think to yourself that you would do this even if you were the only person attending the rally. Think of Gandhi. Think of Martin Luther King.
You have been very frustrated for years with this broken immigration system, right? Perhaps you�ve been stuck for years, no raises, spouse cannot work, children aging out? How many times have you wanted to tell Congress what�s on your mind? This is likely your ONLY CHANCE to do so! Again, think of this in terms of you attending even if you were the only person attending. Attend because you are mad. Attend because you want to see change. Attend to make yourself visible, and make everyone out there know of your silent struggle. The silent struggle that you have had to put up for years. Even if that�s all you do, you will feel better. People will know the unfairness that you have been treated with! Attend because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! If your friends are not attending, try to convince them, but if they choose not to go, don�t let that influence you! Sometimes in life we have to do things just because they are right, no other reason. Will this rally work? Will lawmakers listen? Will my employer be mad that I took a day off? Will I have to spend $500 to get there? None of that matters! The only reason of why you should attend is because you have been abused, and you will not take it! You have dignity! You will go and tell Congress to stop messing with you unfairly. You have the power, freedom and OBLIGATION to do so! Your children will be proud of you. If you do not attend the rally, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime lost opportunity! LET�S GO! WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
You have probably made up your mind not to attend the rally. Perhaps you think that already many people will attend and that one more or one less person (You) will not make a difference. But it will! In fact, let�s not even think about whether one more or one less person will make a difference. Rather, I invite you to think this way: Do it because it�s right! Do it for yourself! Think to yourself that you would do this even if you were the only person attending the rally. Think of Gandhi. Think of Martin Luther King.
You have been very frustrated for years with this broken immigration system, right? Perhaps you�ve been stuck for years, no raises, spouse cannot work, children aging out? How many times have you wanted to tell Congress what�s on your mind? This is likely your ONLY CHANCE to do so! Again, think of this in terms of you attending even if you were the only person attending. Attend because you are mad. Attend because you want to see change. Attend to make yourself visible, and make everyone out there know of your silent struggle. The silent struggle that you have had to put up for years. Even if that�s all you do, you will feel better. People will know the unfairness that you have been treated with! Attend because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! If your friends are not attending, try to convince them, but if they choose not to go, don�t let that influence you! Sometimes in life we have to do things just because they are right, no other reason. Will this rally work? Will lawmakers listen? Will my employer be mad that I took a day off? Will I have to spend $500 to get there? None of that matters! The only reason of why you should attend is because you have been abused, and you will not take it! You have dignity! You will go and tell Congress to stop messing with you unfairly. You have the power, freedom and OBLIGATION to do so! Your children will be proud of you. If you do not attend the rally, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime lost opportunity! LET�S GO! WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
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abhijitp
11-15 05:13 PM
Is there anyway we could go about pushing our story in the media? I am sure all of us combined have a a few thousand bachelor's, master's and ph.d. degrees. We are a group of people with highly advanced skill sets and this needs to be advertised. Maybe convincing a few journalists to take up our cause could be an option. Local newspapers, political blogs, radio stations etc. etc.
IV has been doing this already! Please join your state chapter, and help continue doing it. Thanks!
IV has been doing this already! Please join your state chapter, and help continue doing it. Thanks!
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days_go_by
03-08 05:09 PM
based on country of origin, why even aus? is it because their spouses are more productive than our spouses? or is it because most aus are white,
EBX-Man
03-28 01:40 PM
my friedn ask me go iv site i come site and see spillover give my family gc soon this consufion what happenning
needhelp!
06-24 11:33 AM
Thanks, I'll remove the I94 to avoid any confusion!
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